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¬ J.R. Bookwalter (USA) - "Zombies, synthies and The Master Cylinder"

"The Dead Next Door" has been one of my fave zombie flicks for years and hence I was more than happy to hook up with J.R. Bookwalter, the writer and director of that cult flick, on MSN and ask him a couple of questions about his first steps as a filmmaker, the shooting of the "The Dead Next Door" and the writing and recording of the film's supercool soundtrack that has just been released as a limited edition CD on J.R.'s label Tempe Entertainment!!

So if you're into tons of zombies, bloodshed and shrill synthie sounds, this interview might be totaly up your alley. J.R.'s been a really funny and cool guy to talk to and his answers definitely provide an entertaining and interesting read...

And as if that's not enough, J.R. has also send me a bunch of freakin' awesome behind-the-scenes photos from the set of "The Dead Next Door" to make sure the interviews' layout will turn out just as cool as its content. So here we go, fellow gorehounds!!
 

Shortfilms
(Shortfilms · "The Dead Next Door" - The Movie · "The Dead Next Door" - The Soundtrack  · Future projects)

As far as I know "The Dead Next Door" was your very first feature film. But was it also your first try at filmmaking in general or have you done other projects before, like working on the sets of other flicks or shooting short films, for example?

J.R.: Yes, first feature film but definitely not my first experience... I found my mother's Super-8mm movie camera in 1978 when I was 10 or 11 and starting making little movies, first animating STAR WARS action figures and later using kids from the neighborhood. My mother shot a lot of home movies of my sister & I growing up so that was a big influence!

I kept making shorts right up until DND in 1985, including many music videos and a 20-minute short called GO INSANE in college, where I also was an extra in DAY OF THE DEAD and worked as a PA on a local flick.

Are any of these shorts availible on DVD? And if not, could you imagine to add some 'em as bonus features to, let's say, future Tempe DVDs? Or would you say it's better if not too many people get to see your first steps as a filmmaker?

J.R.: I actually put a few of them on some early Tempe releases... there was one I did for junior high school called BURNING OF THE SALEM WITCHES that I stuck on WITCHOUSE 3: DEMON FIRE as an extra, and some of the stuff I did with David Barton as a kid wound up on the DEAD & ROTTING disc.

We used a lot of commercial music for some of those old shorts so that would probably preclude doing an official release, but yes, I have considered it.
When I first saw Sam Raimi and Scott Spiegel's early shorts, I didn't feel so bad... their early stuff was just as bad as mine.
 

"The Dead Next Door" - The Movie
(Shortfilms · "The Dead Next Door" - The Movie · "The Dead Next Door" - The Soundtrack  · Future projects)

Can you still remember when the idea to shoot a feature film did first come up in your head? Was there any special happening or so that made you think "Well, I've made quite a few short films so far, but now it's time for a bigger and more ambitious project!"?

J.R.: Actually after I quit college in 1985, I had planned to shoot local industrial films or commercials like Romero had done in Pittsburgh... doing a feature didn't really enter my head until I met with "The Master Cylinder" in Detroit and he encouraged me to do it after watching some of my short films, and even offered to kick in a few bucks. You don't have to tell me twice! LOL

Is it true that Sam Raimi then ended up spending his whole "Evil Dead 2" fee to finance "The Dead Next Door"? If so, what do you think was it that finally made him believe in the success of this movie so much?

J.R.: LOL... well, I don't think he spent his whole salary, that's for sure. You have to remember that the money was spent between 1985 and 1989, by which time he was already onto DARKMAN. But there were other folks he enlisted to cough up cash, and we found some locals in Ohio to do the same.

All I can tell you about why is what he told me: He liked me as a person and thought my short films showed promise, so I think he was just passing along his good fortune to others, maybe.

Ah, ok... so it took almost four years to finish "The Dead Next Door"? That's quite a bit of time. Why did it last that long until the movie was done and ready to hit the screens?

J.R.: Most of the film was shot over the summer of 1986, but we kept plugging away getting insert and FX shots and also going back to reshoot things that were too dark or stuff that didn't work. The final picture was locked by the end of 1988, which should have been sooner but neither "The Master Cylinder" nor myself knew much about doing a video finish on a movie at the time so a lot of mistakes were made. But a good chunk of that time was waiting for money to get to the next step, during which time I was out shooting weddings or music videos or whatever to keep the lights on. LOL

Just a short question in between? How did Sam Raimi get the nickname "The Master Cylinder"?

J.R.: That was his idea... I think he didn't want his name to overshadow mine so he wanted to use that name in the credits, which I was a little heartbroken over so I chose not to credit him at all as Executive Producer (that is, until the remastered version that Anchor Bay released... by then I had grown up and didn't care, LOL). I think the name came from some cartoon he liked as a kid whose name escapes me...

Thanks for clearing this up... I was just curious. But now back to "The Dead Next Door". Once the movie was finished, what kinda release did it get? Did it go straight to video or did it hit the silverscreens as well?

J.R.: Noooo... it was unfortunately finished on 1" video so there really wasn't any hope for it to go theatrical, although we did have some tests done, blowing a few clips up to 16mm and 35mm to see what it looked like (not very good). The movie sat around for about a year before it first debuted in 1990 from a little label called Electro Video, run by a filmmaker named Tony Elwood who had worked on EVIL DEAD 2 in some capacity. It wasn't a big release by any means, but copies of the thing started to circulate and people got to see it somehow.

But nevertheless the movie went on to become a true classic and cult film of the zombie genre... do you know how many copies of "The Dead Next Door" have been sold so far?

J.R.: No, no way... there have been a lot of bootleg copies out there over the years on top of shoddy distribution around the world, so unfortunately there's no way to know for sure.

Do you know if the Astro copy I have (as far as I know the only uncut DVD availible in Germany) is legit or not?

J.R.: The original release was legit, but from what a friend of mine there has told me, those guys sublicensed it to a bunch of scoundrels and flooded the market with bootleg copies. What can you do? It happens...

The movie is also banned in Germany from what I understand... which is kind of cool.

Definitely!! A few weeks ago you told me in an email that you're planning to do a special edition DVD that'll be like the ultimate "The Dead Next Door" release. Can you already give some more info about this? What extras will it contain and why should even people, who already own an older DVD, consider to buy that special edition, too?

J.R.: There's a lot of stuff that didn't make it to the Anchor Bay release because they wanted to keep it to one disc... some TV commercials that we made for a local broadcast premiere, storyboard artwork, a tour of some of the locations today and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember. LOL For now, the Anchor Bay disc is the ultimate version, but there's some talk of doing a Blu-ray version with the new extras so we'll see what happens. That's going to take a lot of work on my end, basically redoing everything I already did for the AB release but this time in HD.

Sounds cool, I'll surely keep an eye on it. Now one more question about the film in general, before we come to speak about the soundtrack in particular. What do you think is the special something about "The Dead Next Door" that qualifies it as a true cult flick? Why do you think do gorehounds from all over the world still watch it and enjoy it more than 20 years after it was shot?


J.R.: You know, I have to defer to my friend Dennis Petersen, who did some of the conforming work on the AB release for me (actually handling the Super-8 film to prepare it for transfer)... he always said that when you watch the movie, it's got balls... I think he means that it's kind of a bold flick, lots of crazy stuff going on and it feels very documentary in style maybe.

I spent many years really disliking the movie... it wasn't until the AB remastering that I was able to step back and see it for what it was, I think. It's far from perfect, but it's got some kind of quality that speaks to people, especially guys like myself that want to make movies, and gives them hope maybe.

What I love about it is the fact that it has no lengths at all... right from the start it's just kick-ass zombie action with lots of blood, cool effects and great makeup. A lot of old horror films take ages until the first drop of blood pours down and have rather boring effects and stuff... "The Dead Next Door" however is nonstop zombie massacre!! And it's still rather funny and tongue-in-the-cheek. That's a great mixture in my book...

J.R.: Yeah, I have a very black humor and that comes out in most of my movies... they're not really scary at all in the traditional sense but I guess enough folks like it, so... but thanks, you said it better than I did I guess. LOL
 

"The Dead Next Door" - The Soundtrack
(Shortfilms · "The Dead Next Door" - The Movie · "The Dead Next Door" - The Soundtrack  · Future projects)

Another thing that I think is quite impressive about "The Dead Next Door" is the fact that even though you were just 19 years old when you started the shooting, you were involved in almost all aspects of the making of the flick... you've directed it, produced it, edited it and even recorded the soundtrack... and since the latter has just been released on CD through your label Tempe Entertainment, I'd like to go a bit into detail about it.

J.R.: Yeah, I was a bit of a maverick then... I didn't really think about it, I was just a big kid in an expensive sandbox.

First of all I'd you to tell me a bit about your musical background. What instruments do you play? And have you taught yourself how to play them or did you have any formal training?

J.R.: I was basically self-taught... I was in band during high school and played trombone and later baritone, but I never really learned how to properly read or write music. But I always like noodling around with keyboards. Some guy rear-ended me with his car in 1986 and I got an insurance check, which I promptly spent on Casio keyboards instead of repairing my car with. LOL Later I discovered the "rent-to-own" plan at my local music stores and then I went overboard getting all kinds of stuff.

In the linernotes of the "TDND" soundtrack CD you say it's all John Carpenter's fault that you picked up a keyboard 20 years ago and scored your first feature film yourself. So I guess he's been quite a big influence on you back then... what aspect of his scores has been so inspiring for you?

J.R.: Definitely Carpenter... he was like, "I can't afford a score so I'll do it myself," although he had the advantage of musical knowledge which I didn't. But I used to always have soundtrack LPs playing while I would write scripts or what-not... HALLOWEEN, ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK, Pino Donaggio's TOURIST TRAP or THE HOWLING, Goblin's DAWN OF THE DEAD or any number of others. But Carpenter in particular made it seem more feasible to do an interesting score yourself, because it was simple, very effective music.

When and how did you write the "background noise" (as it's been called in the linernotes) for "The Dead Next Door"? Did you write the compositions in advance? Or did you write 'em after the shooting was completed and you could match 'em to the individual scenes?

J.R.: Most everything was actually scored to the picture... I started with one of the later rough cuts but it was mostly just playing around because no decision had been made about who would score the movie until I went to L.A. to lock the edit with The Master Cylinder. There was some talk about somebody like Joe LoDuca (who had done THE EVIL DEAD) doing the score, but in the end I won out because I happened to be in L.A. when the decision was made to get the sound work done. So I had to have all of my gear shipped from Ohio to California and holed up in a room at the house where I was staying and came up with the rest of the score. One of the tracks, "Left For Dead," was actually written for a movie that a friend of mine was doing and I had done a vocal version on 4-track maybe a year before that. I was stuck for an end cue so I just reworked that without the vocal and called it a day.

You have just released the soundtrack of "The Dead Next Door" on your own label Tempe Entertainment. What does it feel like to finally have the remastered score availible on CD after all those years?

J.R.: I think it took me so long because my colleagues and friends basically teased me years ago about all that old music, so I abandoned scoring any of my later movies. But as I've remastered each of these movies for DVD over the years, I figured that it would be a logical step to release the scores, especially with the popularity of legal music downloading now, thanks to iTunes and others. I have dabbled with some soundtrack cassettes (and later, CDs) which we've sold online and they've always been more of a hobby really rather than a business. But THE DEAD NEXT DOOR score has never come out in any form, although I actually premastered a lot of it back in 1997 before I got busy selling my soul to Charlie Band for 5 years. LOL

Anyway, it's kind of a kick for me to get it out there... it's a lot less work than making a movie so in some respects it was more rewarding doing this project.

The CD has been advertised with the words "Strictly for fans of bad synth music!". That doesn't sound like a large target audience to me... So I wonder how many copies of the CD have been pressed? Has it got a wide release or is it just a limited run for the hardcore fans?

J.R.: It's a limited release for sure, mostly because I went the CD-R duplication route to keep the costs low. The idea was more to make the music available via iTunes, Amazon MP3 and the other download services... the CD was really an afterthought for fans, because I know they'd rather have something in their hands. And being a fan of bad synth music, I take offense to the implication that we're not a big enough audience...

Is this planned to be a one-time affair or will Tempe release a whole series of B-movie soundtracks? If so, what CDs will be out next?

J.R.: Ideally I want to get the Tempe music library out there, which includes my scores for ROBOT NINJA and SKINNED ALIVE, Matthew Jason Walsh's scores for ZOMBIE COP, KINGDOM OF THE VAMPIRE, MIDNIGHT 2, THE SANDMAN, POLYMORPH and BLOODLETTING. There are some other miscellaneous tracks which I might cobble together for a release as well. I also have a full album's worth of actual songs with vocals that don't have anything to do with these movies... stuff I did between 1986 and 1990... but I'm not sure the world is ready for that yet. LOL

I hope it is!! Would be cool to have some more soundtracks at home cause every once in a while they're really fun to listen to... however, the only thing that's a bit sad about the "TDND" soundtrack is the fact that the cool songs from the credits aren't on there. I don't know the titles, but I think one of them is simply called "The Dead Next Door"... couldn't you have added these songs to the soundtrack as bonustracks as well?

J.R.: Yeah, I went back & forth over that... I think we own the rights to those cues but I just wasn't sure so I left them off for now. I tried to track down the bands but, you know, that was 20+ years ago and they've all scattered to the four winds. So I figured for now I'll just include my stuff since there were no possible legal issues there. I'm still working on the others, they might wind up in a collection of those misc. tracks down the road.

Ah, too bad... but even without them the soundtrack is good fun. Especially the last track, the instrumental version of "Left For Dead" is really cool!! What are you personal favorites? Why?

J.R.: I'm most happy with the first 4 or 5 tracks which had been around longer than some of the others, but also stuff like "Altar Room Chase" and "Trapped Like A Rat" are faves. But I agree that "Left For Dead" is one of the best tracks, which as I mentioned wasn't even written for this movie, ironically.

As far as why, the tracks I mentioned above sound more full and complete to me... stuff like "Trapped Like A Rat" has timpani which I dig. Those were tracks I had more time to spend on, some of the others I was really under the gun and had no idea what to do. LOL
 

Future plans and activities
(Shortfilms · "The Dead Next Door" - The Movie · "The Dead Next Door" - The Soundtrack  · Future projects)

Apart from the release of other soundtrack CDs, what else could we expect from Tempe Entertainment next? What are your company's plans for the near future?

J.R.: Right now my focus has mostly been on the DVD biz, which is sadly going in the toilet each year I'm afraid. I executive produced a few shows over the last year or so which are just coming out... FOREST PRIMEVAL which came out in February, POISON SWEETHEARTS which hits in July and PLATOON OF THE DEAD which will probably bow early next year. There will also be some super-huge box sets later this year. As far as new movies... that's up in the air. I've been too lazy and unmotivated the last few years to make anything new myself. LOL

That's too bad... so you really got no idea (or maybe even a finished script) up your sleeve that you might turn into a movie in the upcoming months or at least years?

J.R.: I have a number of completed scripts and things I'd like to do... but after so many years of making flicks on the cheap, I'd like to get a reasonable budget to do them. I may be too old now to get out there with a camera and a few friends.

If you'll ever do another movie, would it be a horror film, too? Or could you also imagine to do e.g. a comedy or a drama or anything like that?

J.R.: I'd like to try my hand at comedy... in my opinion I've really been making black comedies all along anyway and I think I'd really be better at that genre than horror! But realistically, it's easier for me to get a horror movie made and sold. The market is very different now than it was a few years ago, which has been a big source of disillusionment for me. Distributors really don't care about the movies anymore, it's all about making money and not caring what the customers are forced to endure.

What's your opinion about contemporary horror movies (and zombies movies in particular)? Have you seen stuff like "28 Weeks Later", "Diary Of The Dead" or "Planet Terror"? And do you like 'em or do you think they're kinda missing the charme of the old 80s classics?

J.R.: My opinion? Not much. Honestly, I stopped watching a lot of this stuff a few years back because it was so hair-pulling to watch so much of it. I just found it easier to watch comedies or dramas or whatever because I didn't have such big expectations of them. I watch more movies than ever now probably, but my horror diet is almost nonexistent. My friends in the biz tell me to get out there and make a good horror movie rather than bitch about it, but... you know, that's harder than just saying it.

I see we've already been chatting for 2 hours now, so it's about time to come to an end of our interview. So, if our readers have now become interested in the "TDND" soundtrack CD and your other work, what's the best place to check 'em out and buy 'em?

J.R.: Internationally your best bet is a UK store called MovieGrooves.com or maybe Amazon.com and it's always available at tempevideo.com as well. It will be on all of the iTunes stores worldwide as well starting tomorrow, May 20.

Cool... thanks for your time and effort with this interview!! Since I've been a fan of "The Dead Next Door" for years, it's really been a pleasure to ask you some questions and get to know more about that great flick and its director!! But anyway, I better shut up now and leave the famous last words to you.

J.R.: Hey, what is everybody doing reading my babbling? Get out there and buy that music, doggone it! LOL! But on a more serious note, as always I appreciate the support of all the folks who have discovered these whacky movies over the years, and folks like you who care enough to pick my brain. Especially to be talking about this stuff so many years later... it's surreal!
 

Homepage: www.tempevideo.com (Tempe Entertainment)

Questions: May 2008 by Tobi
Answers
: May 2008 by J.R. Bookwalter

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